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Post by 1mtvfan Wed 22 Apr 2015, 10:52 am

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Just an idea, but will have to see what TTfan says

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Post by TigerTankFan Tue 29 Dec 2015, 6:06 pm

1mtvfan & myself received a footbridge kit as a birthday/Christmas gift this year, but it hasn't been assembled as yet. I also have a new steam locomotive and cold can that need to be added to the setup right now, but a frustrating and ongoing disagreement/feud between myself and 1mtvfan (the details of which will not be discussed on here) is keeping me from attending the operating sessions at present. If anyone is wondering, the following link will help explain things regarding the footbridge situation:

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Post by 1mtvfan Tue 29 Dec 2015, 7:32 pm

oh yeah, that footbridge, i'd forgotten about that, the issue however, which will not be discussed, is
easily solved, and is ongoing because of an immature difference of opinion
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Post by 1mtvfan Thu 31 Dec 2015, 7:12 pm

new [Only mods are allowed to see this link] are in

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Drop bridge no. 2 down and with roadbeds in place

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Drop bridge no.2 up, roadbeds still in place

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lead in to the upper loop and helix, with partial roadbeds in place.

now what's left is finishing helix risers, more bench work to support the last half of the upper
reverse loop, a 3rd drop bridge, securing more roadbed, laying track and wiring in the power supply,
as well as wire in a jumper wire to the double crossover switch on the 2nd level to get some power past a certain point.
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Post by 1mtvfan Sun 03 Jan 2016, 5:54 pm

new [Only mods are allowed to see this link] are in now.

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one view of the jumper wires on the double cross over switch

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2nd view

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Current progress on the helix

now all that is left is to complete the helix, add more bench work for the upper reverse loop, add a 3rd drop bridge to the upper reverse loop as well as roadbed and tracks, as well as figure out why the outer throttle is not powering the upper level. so the progress is going very well.
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Post by Brandon Tue 05 Jan 2016, 8:54 am

1mtvfan wrote:new [Only mods are allowed to see this link] are in

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Drop bridge no. 2 down and with roadbeds in place

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Drop bridge no.2 up, roadbeds still in place

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lead in to the upper loop and helix, with partial roadbeds in place.

now what's left is finishing helix risers, more bench work to support the last half of the upper
reverse loop, a 3rd drop bridge, securing more roadbed, laying track and wiring in the power supply,
as well as wire in a jumper wire to the double crossover switch on the 2nd level to get some power past a certain point.

1mtvfan wrote:new [Only mods are allowed to see this link] are in now.

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one view of the jumper wires on the double cross over switch

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2nd view

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Current progress on the helix

now all that is left is to complete the helix, add more bench work for the upper reverse loop, add a 3rd drop bridge to the upper reverse loop as well as roadbed and tracks, as well as figure out why the outer throttle is not powering the upper level. so the progress is going very well.


Thanks for sharing these [Only mods are allowed to see this link] of your [Only mods are allowed to see this link] . Seems like good [Only mods are allowed to see this link] is being made on your [Only mods are allowed to see this link].


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Post by 1mtvfan Tue 05 Jan 2016, 10:55 am

well yes, but the progress has stalled again, because an electrical issue has come up, so that has to be tracked down, and then repaired
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Post by Brandon Tue 05 Jan 2016, 11:20 am

1mtvfan wrote:well yes, but the progress has stalled again, because an electrical issue has come up, so that has to be tracked down, and then repaired


An electrical issue? What kind of electrical issue?

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Post by 1mtvfan Tue 05 Jan 2016, 2:34 pm

just a case of the power not getting to where it needs to go, some wires may be broken or unable to carry the current, but only way to know is to track it down step by step
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Post by TigerTankFan Tue 05 Jan 2016, 2:44 pm

For some unknown reason, one of the main track lines has lost all power and this problem has to be tracked down before it can be fixed. However, the search continues as of 21:00hrs (9:00pm) last night.
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Post by 1mtvfan Tue 05 Jan 2016, 5:25 pm

this was explained in my post previous to the last one
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Post by Brandon Tue 05 Jan 2016, 11:42 pm

1mtvfan wrote:just a case of the power not getting to where it needs to go, some wires may be broken or unable to carry the current, but only way to know is to track it down step by step

TigerTankFan wrote:For some unknown reason, one of the main track lines has lost all power and this problem has to be tracked down before it can be fixed. However, the search continues as of 21:00hrs (9:00pm) last night.  

1mtvfan wrote:this was explained in my post previous to the last one

Thank you both for the explainaton. Wink


Hope you find the problem and then fix it  ;


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Post by 1mtvfan Wed 06 Jan 2016, 11:12 am

we should, but it's going to take a while as there's a jungle of wires to sort through
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Post by 1mtvfan Wed 06 Jan 2016, 5:27 pm

update,
power issue has been solved, but now another issue for the inside rail has come up, that one however will be solved later tonight, also a new [Only mods are allowed to see this link] follow.

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Post by 1mtvfan Wed 06 Jan 2016, 9:44 pm

update,
electrical issues continue, looks like a controller block has burned out on one side, so that is the reason for the inside track ceasing function, so all we can do is sit it out and wait for a new controller block to arrive for replacement.
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Post by 1mtvfan Thu 07 Jan 2016, 12:18 pm

further update,
the inside track power issue will be solved tonight, and a 3rd control box will be added for the phase 3 sections, which means they will not have to be added later.
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Post by TigerTankFan Thu 07 Jan 2016, 3:02 pm

The problem has been identified as a burned out selector switch (which is about 50 years old). Unfortunately this means a lot more electrical work but no trains will be operating until this work has been completed.
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Post by 1mtvfan Thu 07 Jan 2016, 7:17 pm

the problem has already been mentioned, it is the one side of the Selector control box, but this was bound to happen as the 2 independent lines were wired into this 50 year old selector box, so it was only a matter of time before it burned out, it is a wonder the whole box didn't burn out completely, but it is also a wonder it didn't burn out when it was first installed over 3 years ago.
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Post by Brandon Fri 08 Jan 2016, 8:05 am

1mtvfan wrote:we should, but it's going to take a while as there's a jungle of wires to sort through

1mtvfan wrote:update,
power issue has been solved, but now another issue for the inside rail has come up, that one however will be solved later tonight, also a new [Only mods are allowed to see this link] follow.

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ex CP rail 0-6-0 saddle tank no. 55 newly arrived to the LVCRR

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old bridge sitting discarded,unused, and abandoned in the process of being stripped for track bed and rails



1mtvfan wrote:update,
electrical issues continue, looks like a controller block has burned out on one side, so that is the reason for the inside track ceasing function, so all we can do is sit it out and wait for a new controller block to arrive for replacement.

1mtvfan wrote:further update,
the inside track power issue will be solved tonight, and a 3rd control box will be added for the phase 3 sections, which means they will not have to be added later.

1mtvfan wrote:the problem has already been mentioned, it is the one side of the Selector control box, but this was bound to happen as the 2 independent lines were wired into this 50 year old selector box, so it was only a matter of time before it burned out, it is a wonder the whole box didn't burn out completely, but it is also a wonder it didn't burn out when it was first installed over 3 years ago.    


That is cool, glad you guys found the issue. That sounds like a really good selector box if it worked over 50 years Very Happy.

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Post by 1mtvfan Fri 08 Jan 2016, 9:25 am

well it's been with us since our dad had it back when he was a kid, and it was going to burn out at some point, that sort of thing can only handle so much for so long, and it was 50 years old when it was installed 3 years ago, so once it goes, all that can be done is replace it.
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Post by 1mtvfan Fri 08 Jan 2016, 9:55 pm

update, electrical issues continue, but the new controller and selector boxes are in place. the controller box however is only there because it is not compatible with the one that burned out. so that is now ruled out, all that is left to do is to rewire the power area from scratch with new wires and it is hoped that this will solve the problem, and get the construction of part 2 phase 3 back on the priorities list.
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Post by TigerTankFan Sat 09 Jan 2016, 5:37 pm

the now defective and no longer usable selector box was made by a model company called Atlas (which still exists by the way), and accessories from this company are of very high quality. Unfortunately I have no idea if the locomotives and rolling stock produced from this company are of equal quality, but I for one will not be speaking down about anything.
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Post by 1mtvfan Sat 09 Jan 2016, 10:39 pm

electrical issues are resolved, building part 2 of phase 3 is back on the top of the priorities list, followed by drop bridge No 3, it would be a lot better if TTfan came by the LVCRR, but things are what they are at this point, and it cannot nor will it be forced on him, also, my Tablet sadly will not fit under the upper phase 2 bench work standing up, and will not pass by the supports when turned sideways without snagging, so there is nothing i can do about that right now, but i will keep trying to see what works best, but since there isn't much to see on that part of the layout i don't think it needs to be seen anyway. still more, a new [Only mods are allowed to see this link] follows

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Post by 1mtvfan Tue 12 Jan 2016, 11:02 am

even though i'm leaving on an LOA today, here's the newest [Only mods are allowed to see this link] from the LVCRR  

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Former CP rail Wide vision caboose No. 434716 taking a turn on the freight station storage spur

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new Selector and controller boxes in place and Wired up  

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Old controller and Selector boxes

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part 2 of phase 3 with new rails added from the drop bridge back

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newest cold container stacked for running on the stack train.

Track laying continues for the parts that have roadbed in place, and more bench work to complete
as well as adding more to the helix and upper reverse loop, building the 3rd drop bridge, roadbed and track laying and then the electrical to complete as well, but things are progressing.
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Post by Brandon Tue 12 Jan 2016, 11:18 am

1mtvfan wrote:well it's been with us since our dad had it back when he was a kid, and it was going to burn out at some point, that sort of thing can only handle so much for so long, and it was 50 years old when it  was installed 3 years ago, so once it goes, all that can be done is replace it.

1mtvfan wrote:update, electrical issues continue, but the new controller and selector boxes are in place. the controller box however is only there because it is not compatible with the one that burned out. so that is now ruled out, all that is left to do is to rewire the power area from scratch with new wires and it is hoped that this will solve the problem, and get the construction of part 2 phase 3 back on the priorities list.

1mtvfan wrote:electrical issues are resolved, building part 2 of phase 3 is back on the top of the priorities list, followed by drop bridge No 3, it would be a lot better if TTfan came by the LVCRR, but things are what they are at this point, and it cannot nor will it be forced on him, also, my Tablet sadly will not fit under the upper phase 2 bench work standing up, and will not pass by the supports when turned sideways without snagging, so there is nothing i can do about that right now, but i will keep trying to see what works best, but since there isn't much to see on that part of the layout i don't think it needs to be seen anyway. still more, a new [Only mods are allowed to see this link] follows

Spoiler:
former CP Rail bay window caboose no. 437265 sits on the freight station storage spur while a freight train rumbles past

1mtvfan wrote:even though i'm leaving on an LOA today, here's the newest [Only mods are allowed to see this link] from the LVCRR  

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Former CP rail Wide vision caboose No. 434716 taking a turn on the freight station storage spur

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new Selector and controller boxes in place and Wired up  

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Old controller and Selector boxes

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part 2 of phase 3 with new rails added from the drop bridge back

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newest cold container stacked for running on the stack train.

Track laying continues for the parts that have roadbed in place, and more bench work to complete
as well as adding more to the helix and upper reverse loop, building the 3rd drop bridge, roadbed and track laying and then the electrical to complete as well, but things are progressing.    


Thanks for sharing these [Only mods are allowed to see this link] of your [Only mods are allowed to see this link] . Glad to see the electrical issues have been fixed and your train set is running once more.


You were able to upload pictures using the on site uploader without any issuee? I only ask because there is apparently supposed to be some techinial issue with serverside that is supposed to make it impossible to upload images via the on site editor. It seems, however, that maybe the issues are not effectng BD?

Anyway, enjoy your vacation from BD 1mtvfan and we will see you in 2 weeks. Smile Don't worry, the rest of us staff will hold down the fort while your away. Wink


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Post by TigerTankFan Tue 12 Jan 2016, 6:14 pm

I plan on going to tonight's operating session, but I have no control over any issues/problems that may come up unexpectedly.
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