Microsoft Debate

First topic message reminder :

If anyone is wondering, Windows 8 was originally intended for mobile devices but Microsoft had to develop the 8.1 patch because many people still use a desktop computer rather than a mobile device. Unfortunately there's going to be a time when support for win7 (which is what I'm using at present) will end, but I'm hoping that this doesn't happen anytime soon.

That will likely take time!

Yes it probably will but it could have taken them time to make Windows 10 different from other version of Windows

All of these above or true, but you must realize that they do not intentionally have the bugs in there, they just happencto be there, when it is reported they fix it.

Also Windows is the cheapest and most affordable operating system. If they made it like Apple's or Mac's then only middle class and rich people could buy computers which would not  be cool.

a mac is just a pc with an apple branded on it

1mtvfan wrote:a mac is just a pcwith an apple branded on it

Well many Mac users do not consider it a pc, it is just a computer. I have nearly offenred a couple Mac users by saying 'PC'.

a mac and a pc are exactly the same, theres no way around it

So one would think, but Mac users regard them as 2 seperate things, a pc works on Windows ONLY and Mac users do not like Mac and Windows even close to each other in a sentence or to be represented by the same word I guess.

Therefore A Mac (to Mac users) is a computer not a PC.

a mac and a PC are one in the same, no matter how much their users want to make them different, there is no way around it.

You are missihg the my point, I agree with you, but I am telling you there are Mac users that think otherwise, so you do not need to explain or argue it with me, it's them you need to argue it with. I am simply saying that a few times when I say 'PC' to some Mac users they get all offensive and say.... PC!?! I have a Mac!

granted, some people are just ignorant, so it's not worth it to argue when you know you are right an they are not

1mtvfan wrote:a mac and a PC are one in the same, no matter how much their users want to make them different, there is no way around it.

Maybe the idea is the same, but performance and price wise they are different.

not really, they are the same in price and performance

1mtvfan wrote:not really, they are the same in price and performance

Are you kidding me! Mac's last forever and you can find one for less than 700 dollars but even that is rare. There definitelly a difference.

1mtvfan wrote:not really, they are the same in price and performance

That is the silliest thing I ever heard, here is EVIDENCE that your wrong (though honestly one should not need proof if they ever used or heard of a mac): http://gizmodo.com/5033865/study-average-mac-computer-price-more-that-twice-that-of-average-pc

bottom line is a label means nothing, A mac is a PC with the Apple brand on it

1mtvfan wrote:bottom line is a label means nothing, A mac is a PC with  the Apple brand on it

No but performance means something.

they perform the same, macs are geared the same as a PC, there is no way around it

That is highly debatable and for the most part untrue: http://www.diffen.com/difference/Mac_vs_PC http://www.technologizer.com/2010/02/27/pc-or-mac/

Plus the life cycle and possibility of catching a virus is 70% lower then a pc owner. If I bought a mac right now I could have it for life probably. They are built to last.

a PC can last as well, i have had a PC for years w/o any issues with it, and there is a virus for a mac

Ok not desktop wise, but more laptop wise. The Windows Laptops constantly crash and a person is lucky if they get 4 or 5 years of it. Mac laptops or Macbooks are not so the case, they will most likely last a life time if you keep up with the software updates.

also not true, PC laptops can last quite a while, longest i have heard of is 10 or 11 years.

1mtvfan wrote:also not true, PC laptops can last quite a while, longest i have heard of is 10 or 11 years.

I meant on average, with the number of PC'S made and sold maybe 1 in 1000 will last that long give or take a few factors. On average though they tend to not last long, even if they do work rounding 4 or 5 years there is usually de graded and poor performance due to the amount of viruses it would have been bound to recover from.


Macs and Macbooks consitently in almost every single one last at least 10 years or more if you upgrade the software.

maybe but with the right software and care, a PC laptop can last 10 years or longer

Only with luck, what I mean is they build them so poorly or they do not build them to last, so even with best care in the best care in the world your pc can still quit after 2-4 years. Or somewhere around there. The pc's that last 10 years are lucky ones. But those are 1 in a 1000 as I said, whereas, every Macbook or mac is built to last 10 years. You see the different in life expectancy and lifecycle?

a well built laptop can last as long as 10 years, or more